Mountain routes

[UKenGB]

This is an ongoing problem that results in extreme anger (with Google) every year. In the winter I (try to) plan the routes for the following summer's motorcycle tour. But in their infinite wisdom, the map/route providers (Google and Apple are at fault) make the decision that as it is winter and Alpine passes impassable due to the snow, they will simply NOT allow you to plan a route on roads  that suffers from snow in this way, even though you will be perfectly able to use it when you actually need to, i.e. the summer. Try and plot a route e.g. over the Stelvio Pass in Italy in Winter (even now) and neither Apple, nor Google maps ( and by association Route Converter) will route aver the pass. This sort of ridiculous routing can add hundreds of miles as it routes you around the obstacle - Alpine mountain in this case.

Is there any way in which to turn OFF Google's dumb routing so it routes wherever you specify and ignores any possible winter warnings? Surely there must be a way to turn off this aggravating behaviour that makes it impossible to achieve what should be so easy to accomplish.

How can I turn this off. There must be a way.

[routeconverter]

Is there any way in which to turn OFF Google's dumb routing so it routes wherever you specify and ignores any possible winter warnings?

There is no way. All online routing services are optimized for the best routing at the time of the request - and they go to extra lengths to include as much real time information as possible.

How can I turn this off. There must be a way.

Use the offline edition.

[UKenGB]

Is there any way in which to turn OFF Google's dumb routing so it routes wherever you specify and ignores any possible winter warnings?

There is no way. All online routing services are optimized for the best routing at the time of the request - and they go to extra lengths to include as much real time information as possible.

How can I turn this off. There must be a way.

Use the offline edition.

A case of technology triumphing over intelligence. I cannot be the only person who finds this sort of dumb development unacceptable.

I'll have a look at the offline version as that sounds like a potential work around. Thanks for that pointer.

[IlmariKrebs]

Is there any way in which to turn OFF Google's dumb routing so it routes wherever you specify and ignores any possible winter warnings?

There is no way. All online routing services are optimized for the best routing at the time of the request - and they go to extra lengths to include as much real time information as possible.

How can I turn this off. There must be a way.

Use the offline edition.

A case of technology triumphing over intelligence. I cannot be the only person who finds this sort of dumb development unacceptable.

It depends on the intended use. Both use cases are valuable. But it seems to be that google thinks real time usage is of more relevance than planning for another season.

[UKenGB]

Agreed, it depends on the intended use and the developers can have NO way of knowing that in advance. The fact they have ignored one entire segment just to fulfil their desire to show off their skills at incorporating fancy real time info. is not what development should be about. Apple got it right when they wrote "Consistency should be valued above idiosyncratic cleverness". I wouldn't suggest Apple still abide by that, but it should be at the forefront of every developer's mind. This sort of carry on by mapping developers is a clear case of trying to show off with their 'idiosyncratic cleverness' while actually making the product worse for a large proportion of their potential users. I say potential since this stupidity ensures many of us cannot use the product. So what's the point of trying to be clever and losing customers. It's madness, but symptomatic of what's wrong with so much development these days.

Of course if they were actually good at their job they would include an option to turn this feature on and off at will. Or allow you to include routing dates that would therefore determine how the routes were chosen. Ensure EVERYONE can plan the routes they require. This really is not rocket science, just common sense. Obviously completely lacking in this case.

I tried Route Converter's Off-line edition. Unfortunately it was hopeless. I never saw a complete map that didn't have about 50% simply missing, displaying just blank spaces. Impossible to plan anything. Sorry, sounded like possibly a good option.

I just find it extraordinary that in this day and age, with the technology available to us, it is impossible to plan a summer route, during the winter. Quite extraordinary.

[routeconverter]

I tried Route Converter's Off-line edition. Unfortunately it was hopeless. I never saw a complete map that didn't have about 50% simply missing, displaying just blank spaces.

Which map did you choose? Very often, there are larger maps available.

[UKenGB]

Open Street Maps, trying to view Western Europe. About 50% of the display was just blank blocks. If you can suggest how to get full map coverage so I can use it to plan routes then I might have another go. Alternatively, just wait until Google start summer routing. Any idea when they switch? Or put it another way, when the roads cease to be flagged as impassable?